Asus Rampage III Extreme 1601 sindersMod! (TRIM in RAID0 support for R3E)

[sinders]

Thanks! Much appreciated!

Thanks it works great! I hope you will contine to update for us. When intel updates the RST driver for trim in raid 0 with the full 11.5 it will be nice to update the rom too and get it working.

thanks again.

I am not sure we will get Trim in RAID0 on our board unless Intel add this feature in future
versions of the Intel OROMs and RST drivers that are meant for our chipset.

The 11.5 Intel OROMs and RSTe drivers are really meant for boards that have a enterprise
chipset which the Asus Rampage III Extreme doesn't have.

I really hope they do bring out some sort of Trim in RAID0 for boards that contain our chipset
but it is a possibility that this feature might only be possible on newer boards.

[BigT]

Thanks! Much appreciated!

Thanks it works great! I hope you will contine to update for us. When intel updates the RST driver for trim in raid 0 with the full 11.5 it will be nice to update the rom too and get it working.

thanks again.

I am not sure we will get Trim in RAID0 on our board unless Intel add this feature in future
versions of the Intel OROMs and RST drivers that are meant for our chipset.

The 11.5 Intel OROMs and RSTe drivers are really meant for boards that have a enterprise
chipset which the Asus Rampage III Extreme doesn't have.

I really hope they do bring out some sort of Trim in RAID0 for boards that contain our chipset
but it is a possibility that this feature might only be possible on newer boards.

From the help section....(Getting Started). 11.2

• Trim (Microsoft Windows 7* only)
This feature provides support for all pass-through solid-state drives (SSDs) in your storage system that meets the ATA-8 protocol requirements. Also, support is provided for SSDs that are part of a RAID 0 array. This feature optimizes write operations, helps reduce device wear, and maintains unused storage area on devices as large as possible.

Does this mean we have trim in raid 0 already. we have the 11.2 rom and the drivers. and windows 7!!!

[sinders]

It would be great if this were the case but no one has confirmed yet whether the
Intel OROM 11.2 and RST 11.2.0.1006 does indeed enable Trim in RAID0.

[BigT]

It would be great if this were the case but no one has confirmed yet whether the
Intel OROM 11.2 and RST 11.2.0.1006 does indeed enable Trim in RAID0.

well it says in the drivers it does. and in theory all you need is the orom and the drivers. so now we just need to find out how you actually find out if it is working. the other question is how important is trim with modern day ssds like the vertex 4. they claim to have advanced garbage collection. but still i would like to use trim if i could. i am waiting for the results before i get another vertex 4. awsome ssd btw.

[moltiplicatore]

I haven't done any intensive testing on my system with my configuration.

I use AS SSD Benchmark and ran a few benchmark tests with the RST 11.2.0.1006
drivers and the performance scores are around about the same for me as I was
geting with the RST 11.1.0.1006 drivers.

Here is a AS SSD Benchmark performance screenshot of my 2x256GB C300's in
RAID0 on the Intel SATA II controller and using the RST 11.2.0.1006 drivers.



Obviously it's best to use the Intel SATA II controller that our board has with SSD
drives in RAID0 because the Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller can't handle the
bandwidth when in RAID0 and you actually get a lot slower performance.

I have seen my performance scores a bit better than this when
there is less data on the drive because the more free space
you have on your SSD, the faster it is.

I bet if I where to upgrade my system, new board with a proper
Intel SATA III 6Gb/s controller, I would probably see even higher
performance scores than this with the same SSDs in RAID0.

I have my SSD RAID0 configured with two partitions.

First Boot Windows partition: 100GB and a second partition: 376GB.

I have SSD Samsung 830 256Mb conected to Marvell9128 ( Asus Rampage III Extreme ) with MB bios firmware 1052 and Marvell 2.1.0.1413 firmware. and i have very poor perfomance on this SATA 6.0 Gb\s port.

CrstalMark 3.0.1 gives me :

SEQ. read 375 write 232
512 read 278 write 222
4k read 17 write 52
4kQD32 read 199 write 144
that's a half of potential of SDD. Can i do anything to imporve this performance? THANX

[BigT]

I haven't done any intensive testing on my system with my configuration.

I use AS SSD Benchmark and ran a few benchmark tests with the RST 11.2.0.1006
drivers and the performance scores are around about the same for me as I was
geting with the RST 11.1.0.1006 drivers.

Here is a AS SSD Benchmark performance screenshot of my 2x256GB C300's in
RAID0 on the Intel SATA II controller and using the RST 11.2.0.1006 drivers.



Obviously it's best to use the Intel SATA II controller that our board has with SSD
drives in RAID0 because the Marvell 91xx SATA 6G Controller can't handle the
bandwidth when in RAID0 and you actually get a lot slower performance.

I have seen my performance scores a bit better than this when
there is less data on the drive because the more free space
you have on your SSD, the faster it is.

I bet if I where to upgrade my system, new board with a proper
Intel SATA III 6Gb/s controller, I would probably see even higher
performance scores than this with the same SSDs in RAID0.

I have my SSD RAID0 configured with two partitions.

First Boot Windows partition: 100GB and a second partition: 376GB.

I have SSD Samsung 830 256Mb conected to Marvell9128 ( Asus Rampage III Extreme ) with MB bios firmware 1052 and Marvell 2.1.0.1413 firmware. and i have very poor perfomance on this SATA 6.0 Gb\s port.

CrstalMark 3.0.1 gives me :

SEQ. read 375 write 232
512 read 278 write 222
4k read 17 write 52
4kQD32 read 199 write 144
that's a half of potential of SDD. Can i do anything to imporve this performance? THANX

No you can not. that is as good as it gets. put the ssd on the intel controller. the latency will be faster. and you will get better performance. even with the updated marvel rom and drivers the performance was worse on the marvell controller. save yourself the time and go back to the intel. if you want mroe speed go with a raid 0 setup. but a good ssd on the intel controller is all you need.

[ZioGTS]

No you can not. that is as good as it gets. put the ssd on the intel controller. the latency will be faster. and you will get better performance. even with the updated marvel rom and drivers the performance was worse on the marvell controller. save yourself the time and go back to the intel. if you want mroe speed go with a raid 0 setup. but a good ssd on the intel controller is all you need.

Uhm... I currently have my Samsung 830 on the Marvell controller, and two WD Caviar Black HDs in RAID0 on the Intel. I'm tempted to try the SSD on the Intel, but what about my HDs in raid? Should I move them to the Marvell if I want to use AHCI mode on the Intel, or can I leave them together, with the Intel set to raid mode?

[sinders]

No you can not. that is as good as it gets. put the ssd on the intel controller. the latency will be faster. and you will get better performance. even with the updated marvel rom and drivers the performance was worse on the marvell controller. save yourself the time and go back to the intel. if you want mroe speed go with a raid 0 setup. but a good ssd on the intel controller is all you need.

Uhm... I currently have my Samsung 830 on the Marvell controller, and two WD Caviar Black HDs in RAID0 on the Intel. I'm tempted to try the SSD on the Intel, but what about my HDs in raid? Should I move them to the Marvell if I want to use AHCI mode on the Intel, or can I leave them together, with the Intel set to raid mode?

ZioGTS

I wouldn't recommend moving your SSD to our boards Intel controller because you would get slower speed from a single SSD on the
Intel controller than you would on the Marvell controller because of our Intel controller is not a SATA III controller.

If you are setting up RAID using SSDs, then it is better to use the Intel controller
because the Marvell Controller can't handle the bandwidth when in RAID0

[ZioGTS]

Thanks sinders, but I guess BigT did some tests with a single SSD and found out Intel to be better than Marvell anyway. I saw several reviews on the net, and basically everybody says Intel produces better performance than Marvell, even if max read speed is capped to Sata II levels. Access time and 4k performance is way higher on Intel, apparently. I just need to know if it's possible to keep my HDD raid on the Intel together with my SSD.

[BigT]

Thanks sinders, but I guess BigT did some tests with a single SSD and found out Intel to be better than Marvell anyway. I saw several reviews on the net, and basically everybody says Intel produces better performance than Marvell, even if max read speed is capped to Sata II levels. Access time and 4k performance is way higher on Intel, apparently. I just need to know if it's possible to keep my HDD raid on the Intel together with my SSD.

Yes that can be done. If you are useing the intel controller in "raid mode" any drive connected to the intel controller that is not part of a raid volume will be run in AHCI mode. So that solves all your problems. And the access time on the intel controller is alot better then the marvell controller. ann the 4k speeds as was mentioned above. i just hope with the new 11.2 rom and drivers that the trim in raid 0 is not working as it is stated in the drivers help file.