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[request] Acer Veriton 3900Pro newer cpu support
#21
The truth seems hard to believe.... Q965 seems to not like 45nm.
Googling gigabyte q965, led me to a gigabyte board, similar hardware stuff... q965, 8gb ram, intel gma3000... and looking at https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-...upport-cpu we have an overview of usable cpus.
You all asking... "why gigabyte?" well... most of gigabyte boards use phoenix/award bios.
I know I own an 775i65G R2.0 with i865G and I know it can handle the E5200 45nm cpu, it just takes like 5-10s to show bios post. I did not test the E5800 yet.
And there's that hp dc7700. at least 2 mentions out there saying E7600 can work with it.
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#22
Just tested Acer Veriton 3900Pro will NOT work with intel E5200.
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#23
I ordered a Intel Q6700 few days ago, it should arrive within a month. It's from aliexpress... where the people buys stuff. When it arrives, I must pay attention to all details like contact pads being intact and if it is the correct cpu. Let's hope it ends all well. The e7600 is almost arriving here, maybe at end of the next week.

While I wait, I do other small repairs to other boards. Like reviving an EliteGroup K7S5A v3.1 with a bad bios flashing (not caused by me) with another board, a DFI CA61 which uses same flash package winbond f49...-12b. I'm not a fan of DIP chips... without the right tools, it's not too hard to bend pins.
With the bios chip almost out of the socket of DFI CA61, the board turned on, loaded MS-DOS 6.22 with a floppy disk containing 030811.rom and aminf342.exe. First trial of understand the flash tool went wrong, throwing floods of division by 0 and restarting with the bad flashed chip, I noticed the code dd-- was displayed on the 4 digit pc analyzer card and it was displaying same dd-- with k7s5a. Repeating the flash attempt again went ok... I lauched aminf342 with /u030811.rom and a bunch of switches and /x to enter user interface. It seems it was unable to detect the flash package nor system chipset. I selected via 59... as southbridge and winbond w49...v3 manually (no doubt it is a cool flash tool but it took me a while to understand how it works), then I went to file section, believing or not, it could backup the contents of bios chip (for some reason the floppy disk fat got corrupted, need use winhex or winimage and try to see what was in that chip) and then I flashed the 030811.rom with success. Turned off the system, put back the original chip to see if everything is ok and it was ok. I installed the flashed chip on the K7S5A and turned on... my jaw fell... it is alive and detecting amd duron 750 (the only working socket 462 I have available, need to get an athlon xp 2600+ 266fsb) and the 256MB PC133. I checked the bios, etc, it seemed all fine. Next day, I emptied a big Compaq case and installed this full ATX form factor (9 screws), it was not easy because it took me some attempts and at least 20 minutes... And then I installed a Geforce 2 MX 64MB VRAM, all fine. Added a tv tuner, now 512MB ram, adjusted the power wire, bigger heatsink with noisy fan, adjusted the broken pin from the flashed chip. The pc case had a XP SP3 install from previous board and started well, I forgot to hook the PS/2 mouse. Then............
Time to connect to the lan and I see something strange, the ip could not be assigned automatically.. I thought it could be a bad cable, nope. Openwrt router,... nope. Internet router... nope. Bad windows install... nope. It could get an ip with an ancient router and windows, or linux live cd. Back to windows XP, no matter the driver, no ip, not even assigning static. After many hours, I looked at ipconfig /all and mac address was all 0's. Then I looked to the network card settings and tried to enter a number ... 12 chars... I thought it could be a mac address but without : or -.... and it got Internet.... A bit of Internet digging, it seems it is a known issue of a mac address being lost after a flash bios update. I found this https://www.ocworkbench.com/2002/ecs/k7s...0GUIDE.htm and started searching k7s5a_id.exe all over the place, there are few places where it can be found... meh at ECS sites. If we google mobokive k7s5a, there it is. We need to extract the contents of the exe and edit the ee file, I used notepad++, I got worried about it saying utf-8. I took a photo of the sticker that's over the red parallel port saying EA=xxxxxxxxxxxx. I edited the ee file and took the diskette to the other case and attempted to use the ee.exe, I thought it would read ee.dat because I renamed from ee to ee.dat... ee ee.dat is what made the magic. A restart, all fine, xp's safe mode, removed the fake mac address, restart... et voilá: Internet!
I'm trying to recover also an ECS P6VAP-A+ too. Diag card says dF--. The board has long beep repeatedly... beeeeeep beeeeep beeeeep. Need to find another victim with Winbond w29c020..-12.
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#24
Regarding to k7s5a, it turned out someone flashed this board with a bios for matsonic ms9307c+ dated 08/22/02....
The diskette seems to have a problem with sector 23 and it will be punished with endless zeroing... hihiihih..
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#25
I can confirm: Acer Veriton 3900Pro AND Asus P5GC-MX/1333 will NOT work with intel e7600. The cpu will work with Asrock G41C-GS R2.0: https://valid.x86.fr/8r06f7 ... there's a memory count bug in bios. The bios itself shows 8gb during post but it shows 12gb in bios... 4gb+8gb when the board has 2x 4gb... I maybe bother asrock to try to fix this problem.
I guess I have a new mission.... to make the p5gc to eat that e7600 by force. It seems it can have an e7500 but not e7600.
But it's not all bad news... the veriton 3900pro has now 8GB of ddr2-800. 2x 2gb ddr2-800 already maxs out the bandwidth. 4x 2gb will just only allow more ram memory. And the Q6700 should arrive the next week.... maybe March 22nd or 23rd.
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Yey....... http://valid.x86.fr/2lxs5u .... the intel core 2 duo e7600 working with a asus p5gc-mx/1333
Is it me... or the Asus support site is broken? Because I had to get the 0413 version from elsewhere...
Steps...
Get: 0413 version of the bios ... afudos 2.36
Get: mmtool most recent you can find but I used 3.22 ....
Get: microcode update for 1067A platform b1
Get: blank and good floppy disk and drive as well

Start mmtool, load the bios, CPU PATCH tab, select delete, go to the end of the list and select 067A, it will say platform 11, click apply to delete that microcode, then select insert, browse for the 1067A b1 and click apply, go to the end of the list again and there it is. I added platform 44 instead of the of b1 first time and the result was a message at end of the bios post saying it detected an unrecognized cpu and needed a bios update to unlock the full power... and I thought I was in the right way. Save as... the new bios with a new name, build a ms-dos diskette, move the rom and afu236u, boot the diskette, afu236u /i and hope for no power loss. The result should be a working pc with support for e7600. I had an intel e5800 when I flashed the bios twice. The intel e5800 shares the same 1067A microcode as e7600 but I noticed that ALL microcode dates were older than the e7600 Q2'09 launch date. I cant recall now but the revision for 1067A was 07 and now it is 0E.
I have a slight impression than amibios is better than award+phoenis...
I can probably try to re-reproduce again for the veriton but trying to remove the cooler, insert, change the cpus... is a tedious job.... Lets see if I can do it tomorrow.
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..........and I need someone to slap me 1000 times....
I managed to half-brick the board. Now when I start the board, there are beeps. 1 long beep and 2 short beeps and silence and an unhappy sound.
The bootblock seems ok. It seems the floppy drive can accept ms-dos boot diskettes.
But... Acer did not provide a bios mechanism for ms-dos and if I even try to inject things normally... the bios is 1 megabyte long and fprogw is useless... fprog.exe tool is small etc... but since I can not see things from screen, I cant figure out what is doing or it is wrong.
I'm thinking of modifying a win98 bootdisk, removing the cd-rom things aspi etc, then use the ram drive thing and have all needed in ram and execute from there. I cant seem to use cd-rom nor usb.
The other way... would be a cf/sd card floppy drive or a 2mb floppy.
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#28
The veriton 3900pro is officially dead.
I've built a w98 floppy with custom ebd.cab that contained the a03-a4 bios and fprog dos4gw parts.txt etc...
Edited config.sys to remove all cd drivers and autoexec.bat was edited too to automate things....
I tested with vbox, used winimage, izarc, ...
All seemed fine in vbox, obviously fprog fails cos theres no spi chip. And it's supposed to restart automatically after flashing or error.
I must say it loaded from diskette, it took a lot of time... the drive stopped reading, drive light off, waited waited waited ... 5 mins.... I cut the power and back on... and now it's on an infinite loop of start and stop.
I guess... I could try something or just get some other similar board with 4 ddr2-800 slots...
I do have a some square chips from other dead boards and veriton 3900pro has an unpopulated bios chip and that bios_sel jump
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#29
Looking at SPI programmers and other threads...
It looks like that there are 2 SST 25VF080B and they are 1 megabyte spi flash chips. They are near the 4 ram slots. There is one similar thing but it's just an RT9214 pwm thing.
Trying to take shots with my cellphones ... took a while to decypher what's written over the package.
I guess I will have to find why there are two chips and why one of them has a green "dot" and where are the traces going.
I hope they don't mind to take a lil voltage from multimeter continuous mode whatever its called.
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#30
Yey... Q6700 arrived and it's beautiful. It seems a 1mm thicker than a regular core2duo. Already tested with another system and it works.
Meanwhile, I happen to have a raspberry pi 3 A+ and seeking the trusted tutorial to connect the gpio to the pads on the backsside of the board...
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