Ok so here is my long overdue and detailed report on how the AMD Phenom II X4 980 3.7Ghz cpu with DDRII 1066 (albeit at auto bios timings) and the ASRock ALIVENF5SLI-1394 AM2 motherboard under the pretense that its supposed to work as a HT1.0 mode using the L1.53 beta bios so this is more of an ASRock issue as they provided the bios but I thought I should let anyone know if in case they were interested in maxing out their motherboard using the 45nm Phenom II X4s... I don't have access to the older Agena Phenom X4s that are officially supported so if anyone has one I would appreciate to know if the motherboard automatically configures the FSB or HT to 1.0 or 1000Mhz aka 2.0MT/s.
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit
Clean install on Bios AsRock 1.50 and AMD Athlon X2 6400+ 3.2Ghz with AM2 boost @ 3.247Mhz and 2x 1024MB (2GB dual channel matched) SuperTalent DDRII-800 CL5 T8UB1Gc5
I installed the Corsair modules without reformatting under the Athlon X2 and no problems.
I flashed L1.53 beta bios and installed Phenom II 980 cpu (again, I had previously installed CPU under 1.50 bios but stuck at 800Mhz unknown cpu)
AsRock ALiveNF5SLI-1394 L1.53 bios description:
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 980
Processor Speed: 3700Mhz
Microcode Update: 100F43/10000AF
L1 512KB
L2 2048KB
L3 6144KB
Total Memory 4096MB
DDRII 1 1024/533Mhz (DDRII 1066)
DDRII 2 1024/533Mhz (DDRII 1066)
DDRII 3 1024/533Mhz (DDRII 1066)
DDRII 4 1024/533Mhz (DDRII 1066)
Motherboard settings that I had to manually set under the Phenom II X4 980:
CPU configuration ~ only
memory clock from default AUTO set to 533MHz (DDRII 1066)
(before it defaulted to lowest DDRII speed 266MHz)
Chipset settings ~ only
HT Bus Speed set from AUTO to 1000MHz (before it defaulted to 800Mhz as shown under CPU-z)
HT Bus Width from AUTO to 16bit (I just did that only to make sure so maybe its nothing)
However with the Phenom II X4 980 under the 1.50 bios, if I saved bios settings and restarted, it would restart and boot to windows as normal.
Under the L1.53 beta bios default settings if I save bios settings and restart the computer does not really restart, it saves but it hangs...
So I have to manual shutdown by pressing power button.
If I go into bios and check that settings were changed or saved which they were and then go to "discard changes and exit" the computer boots to Windows no problem.
Under Windows, if I restart the computer, it will shutdown but instead of restart and boot, it hangs so I have to manual shutdown and then power on.
If I set manual sleep mode under Windows, it goes into sleep mode, wait a couple minutes, press space bar and Windows works no problem.
If I set manual hybernate mode under Windows, it goes into hybernate, computer is silent as if shut down, then many minutes later I press space bar and Windows works no problem.
Bios Properties and changes:
bios size 512 KB
Type AMI
Version P1.50
AGESA version 3.1.6.0
System bios date 04/09/08
Video Bios date 02/23/09
Type AMI
Version L1.53
AGESA Version 3.3.2.0
System bios date 12/21/09
Video bios date 02/23/09
Motherboard ID 63-153-0000010-00101111-122109-NVIDIA$ASR28153_ALIVENF5SLI-1394 BIOS L1.53
Front Side Bus Properties:
Bus Type AMD K10
Real Clock 201 MHz
Effective Clock 201 Mhz
HyperTransport Clock 1005 Mhz (again this was manual set under bios)
North Bridge Clock 1608 Mhz (I believe this is supposed to be 2000Mhz)
Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type Unganged Dual DDR2 SDRAM
Bus Width 128-bit
DRAM:FSB Ratio 16:6
Real Clock 536MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 1072 MHz
Bandwith 17154 MB/s
CPUID Properties
Manufacturer Authentic AMD
CPU Name AMD Phenom II X4 980 Processor
Revision 00100F43h
AMD brand ID 1D06h (Phenom II X4 980)
Platform ID D6h (Socket AM2+)
HTT/CMP Units 0/4
AMD Phenom II X4 980 @ 3719 Mhz (18.5 x 201)
Deneb
RB-C3
Min / Max CPU multiplier 4/0x/ 39.5x
Memory Controller Dual Channel (128-bit) - Unganged
Memory Timings
CAS Latency (CL) 5T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 7T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 7T
RAS Active Time (tRAS 24T
CPU-z description:
AMD Phenom II X4 980
Deneb
Max TDP 126W
Socket AM3 (938)
45nm
1.344~366V
RB-C3
3719.07Mhz
Bus Speed 201.03Mhz
HT Link 1005.17Mhz
General Memory info:
DDR2 4096MBytes
Channels Dual
DC Mode Unganged
NB Frequency 1608.3Mhz
DRAM Frequency 536.1Mhz
FSB
RAM 3:8
5-7-7-24-31 (SPD shows the Timings Table "EPP#1" 533Mhz 5-5-5-15-22-2T 2.100V as far as I know the bios only shows 2.05V mode in red overclocking so I left that to AUTO)
I have benchmarked the system running CPU-z, AIDA64, 4Media Video Converter Ultimate 6 using four cores/CUDA, Nvidia Physx Fluid demo version 1.0.0.9 (simulating 614XX fluid particles in HW mode) at the same time while also using an old emulator called Vivanonno for Rave Racer while at the same time having 4MediaVCU6 convert a 700MB MKV file into an H.264 video that ends up being 2.8GB and takes around 44 minutes to convert (a little less if alone) while also playing a 720p H.264 video while Task manager shows 46 processes running and over 3.08GB of ram used (while also having multiple text web documents open)
Idle boot to desktop task manager processes is 33 and 811MB of ram used.
Case is closed to simulate hottest temperature zones during hours of full load.
Motherboard temperatures is 42 celcius (108F)
CPU over all is 78 celsius (172F)
CPU Core #1 69 to 70C (156F)
CPU Core #2 69 to 70C (156F)
CPU Core #3 69 to 70C (156F)
CPU Core #4 69 to 70C (156F) note these temps are much more consistently in sync than when I used the Athlon X2 6400+
Aux 74C (165F)
GPU Diode 63C (145F) note I need to use Crysis 1 or Warhead to raise the temps up to almost 69C after hours of playing using GPU-z
HDDs stayed at 40C or so.
At idle with case closed the temps are as follows after minutes passed from conversion and multi-tasking abuse:
Motherboard 39C (102F)
CPU overall 54C (129F)
CPU Core #1 49C (120F)
CPU Core #2 49C (120F)
CPU Core #3 49C (120F)
CPU Core #4 49C (120F)
Aux 53C (127F)
GPU Diode 42C (108F)
All HDDs fall to 34C (93F)
About Windows 7 SP1 64bit funny stuff:
Initial clean install with 1.50 bios Athlon 6400+ (AM2 Boost) 3247Mhz and 2GB dual channel DDRII 800
Default scores
Processor 6.3
Ram 5.9 (it shot higher when I added the 4GB sticks to 6.2 I think)
Graphics 7.0 (I actually believe this was a bit lower...)
Gaming Graphics 7.0
Primary hard disk 5.9
After L1.53 beta bios and Phenom II X4 980 @ 3719Mhz and manual settings in bios
Processor 7.4
Ram 7.4
Graphics 7.0
Gaming Graphics 7.0
Phd 5.9
3dMark Vantage Athlon X2 6400+ is P8067, GPU 6581, CPU 24991, CPU tests 590.31 and 105.14
3dMark Vantage Phenom X4 980 is P8248, GPU 6587, CPU 33856 CPU tests 1587.19 and 122.70 ~ H4870, GPU 4233, CPU 32939, CPU tests 1597.53 and 118.00
3dMark05 17190, CPU score 14746, tests 9.8fps and 9.9fps
3dMark05 21163, CPU score 22145, tests 15.0fps and 14.5fps
3dMark06 11336, CPU score 2341, tests 0.729fps and 1.202fps
3dMark06 15669, CPU score 5021, tests 1.638fps and 2.463fps
Over all system performance, speed and program/application start up speed is faster.
Performance in gaming applications like Crysis 1/Warhead is slightly or more so smoother for obvious reasons however I am wondering if the AM3 cpu is supposed to use HT1.0 (2.0GT/s) why is the NB frequency limited to 1608.2Mhz, it should be 2000.0Mhz right?
And should I try to manually set the ram timings to 5-5-5-15 instead of what the system sets it to 5-7-7-24 ?
I hope this feedback data can really help you in how this beta bios, CPU and ram combination works, if there are any additional tests please ask me to do them or tell me about them.
I use other programs for productivity but among them I also use 4Media Video Converter Ultimate 6 because it actually used the Athlon X2 6400+ and the GeForce GTS 250 1GB CUDA to speed up conversion, adding the Phenom II X4 980 dramatically increases conversion speed as the program effectively uses all four CPU cores and the GPU's CUDA core ability.
Also the major bug so far is the restart from windows and restart from bios, a reformat is pointless since it would still happen from saving settings under bios so I hope this information is usefull in helping you figure out what is going on.
I have tested with various programs and benchmarks, including Nvidia's Medusa Tech demo as it is stressfull on the system too, as well as using an old Nvidia tech demo screensaver called Geoforms and the system goes to sleep mode at the proper times and comes back to desktop when I press the spacebar.
So far I have yet to experience any type of blue screen or system crash or program crash. I used to get alot of that with Vista and in rare occasions under Win 7 with the Athlon X2 6400+, I never abused overclocked that CPU so it was rock solid always and I have noticed that the overall system runs much quieter than before (using the same but newer thermal grease)
Again I would like to eventually reformat just to make sure but I fear that the restart from windows/bios bug will
[censored] up the installation.
Another thing I need to mention is that under 3dMark Vantage, 06 and 05 the Phenom II X4 980 is listed as having L1 and L2 cache, no mention of the L3 cache which makes me wonder why or if a clean instal will remedy this issue or if its just the Beta bios of course this would end up being an ASRock issue if they can figure this problem out which I hope is the case given how stable the system has been so far under massive stress and temp stress tests.
CPU Properties:
CPU Type QuadCore AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 980
CPU Alias Deneb
CPU Stepping RB-C3
Engineering Sample No
CPUID CPU Name AMD Phenom II X4 980 Processor
CPUID Revision 00100F43h
CPU VID 1.3500 V
North Bridge VID 1.3500 V
CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 3719.3 MHz (original: 3700 MHz)
CPU Multiplier 18.5x
CPU FSB 201.0 MHz (original: 200 MHz)
HyperTransport Clock 1005.2 MHz
North Bridge Clock 1608.3 MHz
Memory Bus 536.1 MHz
DRAM:FSB Ratio 16:6
CPU Cache:
L1 Code Cache 64 KB per core
L1 Data Cache 64 KB per core
L2 Cache 512 KB per core (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)
L3 Cache 6 MB (On-Die, ECC, NB-Speed)
Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 63-153-0000010-00101111-122109-NVIDIA$ASR28153_ALIVENF5SLI-1394 BIOS L1.53
Motherboard Name ASRock ALiveNF5SLI-1394 (3 PCI, 1 PCI-E x1, 3 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)
Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce 560 SLI, AMD K10
Memory Timings 5-7-7-24 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Command Rate (CR) 2T
DIMM1: Corsair Dominator CM2X1024-8500C5D 1 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-18 @ 400 MHz) (4-4-4-13 @ 270 MHz)
DIMM2: Corsair Dominator CM2X1024-8500C5D 1 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-18 @ 400 MHz) (4-4-4-13 @ 270 MHz)
DIMM3: Corsair Dominator CM2X1024-8500C5D 1 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-18 @ 400 MHz) (4-4-4-13 @ 270 MHz)
DIMM4: Corsair Dominator CM2X1024-8500C5D 1 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-18 @ 400 MHz) (4-4-4-13 @ 270 MHz)
BIOS Properties:
System BIOS Date 12/21/09
Video BIOS Date 02/23/09
DMI BIOS Version L1.53
Graphics Processor Properties:
Video Adapter PNY Verto GeForce GTS 250
GPU Code Name G92GTS (PCI Express 2.0 x16 10DE / 0615, Rev A2)
GPU Clock (Geometric Domain) 738 MHz (original: 738 MHz)
GPU Clock (Shader Domain) 1836 MHz (original: 1836 MHz)
Memory Clock 1101 MHz (original: 1100 MHz)
--------[ Chipset ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ North Bridge: AMD K10 IMC ]
North Bridge Properties:
North Bridge AMD K10 IMC
Supported Memory Types DDR2-400, DDR2-533, DDR2-667, DDR2-800, DDR2-1066, DDR3-800, DDR3-1066, DDR3-1333, DDR3-1600 SDRAM
Revision 00
Process Technology 45 nm
Probe Filter Not Supported
Memory Controller:
Type Dual Channel (128-bit)
Active Mode Dual Channel (128-bit) - Unganged
Memory Timings:
CAS Latency (CL) 5T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 7T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 7T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 24T
Row Cycle Time (tRC) 31T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 4T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 8T
Write To Read Delay (tWTR) 4T
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 6T
Four Activate Window Delay (tFAW) 18T
Write CAS Latency (tWCL) 5T
Refresh Period (tREF) 7.8 us
DRAM Drive Strength 1.25x
DRAM Data Drive Strength 1.0x
Clock Drive Strength 1.5x
CKE Drive Strength 1.5x
Idle Cycle Limit 16
Error Correction:
ECC Supported, Disabled
ChipKill ECC Supported, Disabled
RAID Not Supported
DRAM Scrub Rate Disabled
L1 Data Cache Scrub Rate Disabled
L2 Cache Scrub Rate Disabled
L3 Cache Scrub Rate Disabled
Memory Slots:
DRAM Slot #1 1 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 1 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #3 1 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #4 1 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
[ South Bridge: nVIDIA nForce 560 SLI (CK8-04) ]
South Bridge Properties:
South Bridge nVIDIA nForce 560 SLI (CK8-04)
Revision F3
Process Technology 0.13 um
nVIDIA SLI Supported
nVIDIA Hybrid SLI Not Supported
PCI Express Controller:
PCI-E 1.0 x16 port #0 In Use @ x16 (PNY Verto GeForce GTS 250 Video Adapter)
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #1 In Use @ x8
PCI-E 1.0 x1 port #2 In Use @ x4
PCI-E 1.0 x2 port #3 In Use @ x4
Clock Generator:
CPU FSB 200.9 MHz
HyperTransport 1004.6 MHz
PCI 33.5 MHz
PCI Express 100.0 MHz
MAC PHY 125.0 MHz
SATA PHY 99.8 MHz
Audio/Modem Codec 24.6 MHz
USB2 Controller 48.0 MHz
PIT / ACPI Timer 14.3 MHz
--------[ BIOS ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BIOS Properties:
BIOS Type AMI
BIOS Version L1.53
AGESA Version 3.3.2.0
System BIOS Date 12/21/09
Video BIOS Date 02/23/09
CPU-z
CPU-Z TXT Report
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Binaries
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
CPU-Z version 1.60
Processors
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4
APICs
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Processor 0
-- Core 0
-- Thread 0 0
-- Core 1
-- Thread 0 1
-- Core 2
-- Thread 0 2
-- Core 3
-- Thread 0 3
Processors Information
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Processor 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 4 (max 4)
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
Name AMD Phenom II X4 980
Codename Deneb
Specification AMD Phenom II X4 980 Processor
Package Socket AM3 (938)
CPUID F.4.3
Extended CPUID 10.4
Brand ID 14
Core Stepping RB-C3
Technology 45 nm
TDP Limit 126 Watts
Core Speed 3719.0 MHz
Multiplier x FSB 18.5 x 201.0 MHz
HT Link speed 1005.1 MHz
Instructions sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V
L1 Data cache 4 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 4 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4 x 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L3 cache 6 MBytes, 48-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes
Min FID 4.0x
# of P-States 4
P-State FID 0x15 - VID 0x10 - IDD 21 (18.50x - 1.350 V)
P-State FID 0xE - VID 0x16 - IDD 16 (15.00x - 1.275 V)
P-State FID 0x7 - VID 0x1E - IDD 11 (11.50x - 1.175 V)
P-State FID 0x100 - VID 0x28 - IDD 4 (4.00x - 1.050 V)
Package Type 0x1
Model 80
String 1 0x3
String 2 0x6
Page 0x0
CmpCap 4
ApicIdCoreSize 4
TDC Limit 84 Amps
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 4
Chipset
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Northbridge NVIDIA nForce4 rev. A3
Southbridge NVIDIA nForce4 MCP rev. F3
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 4096 MBytes
Channels Dual, (Unganged)
Memory Frequency 536.1 MHz (3:8)
CAS# latency (CL) 5.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 7
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 7
Cycle Time (tRAS) 24
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 31
Command Rate (CR) 2T
Uncore Frequency 1608.2 MHz
Memory SPD
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
DIMM # 1
SMBus address 0x50
Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number CM2X1024-8500C5D
Number of banks 1
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
EPP yes (1 profiles)
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 4.0-4-4-13-16 @ 270 MHz
JEDEC #2 5.0-5-5-18-23 @ 400 MHz
EPP timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage)
EPP profile #1 (full) 5.0-5-5-15-22-2T @ 533 MHz (2.100 Volts)
DIMM # 2
SMBus address 0x51
Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number CM2X1024-8500C5D
Number of banks 1
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
EPP yes (1 profiles)
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 4.0-4-4-13-16 @ 270 MHz
JEDEC #2 5.0-5-5-18-23 @ 400 MHz
EPP timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage)
EPP profile #1 (full) 5.0-5-5-15-22-2T @ 533 MHz (2.100 Volts)
DIMM # 3
SMBus address 0x52
Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number CM2X1024-8500C5D
Number of banks 1
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
EPP yes (1 profiles)
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 4.0-4-4-13-16 @ 270 MHz
JEDEC #2 5.0-5-5-18-23 @ 400 MHz
EPP timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage)
EPP profile #1 (full) 5.0-5-5-15-22-2T @ 533 MHz (2.100 Volts)
DIMM # 4
SMBus address 0x53
Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number CM2X1024-8500C5D
Number of banks 1
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
EPP yes (1 profiles)
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 4.0-4-4-13-16 @ 270 MHz
JEDEC #2 5.0-5-5-18-23 @ 400 MHz
EPP timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage)
EPP profile #1 (full) 5.0-5-5-15-22-2T @ 533 MHz (2.100 Volts)