ASUS X58L AMIBIOS - Penryn & Chipset Questions

[DylRicho]

Hi guys,

I'm new here. Nice to meet you all.

I'd like to know exactly what processors I can use with the latest BIOS for my laptop. The BIOS can be found here.

And also, if it doesn't currently support the Core 2 Duo T9300, would it be possible to add it?

ASUS X58L AP020A
GM965 chipset
Socket P
Celeron M 575 is the current processor.

Many thanks,
Dylan.

[DylRicho]

Hello?

I tried an Intel Celeron 925 (45nm Penryn) and it was successful. According to CPU World, this processor has a CPUID of 1067A. My BIOS only lists '067A' without the '1'. Does this mean that they're the same thing?

If so, then I guess it already supports the T9500 and T9300 since '0676' is listed but '10676' isn't.

[DylRicho]

Hello? Anyone? O.o

Is this forum dead?

I would like to know two things, since I'm not experienced with BIOSes.

1) Is it possible to view the actual chipset that I have with the contents of the BIOS?

2) Could someone possibly tell me if my BIOS has Penryn support?

I understand that '10676' is the Penryn CPUID, but I only see '0676' listed - without the '1'; is that the same thing?

[Raalph]

Hi,

Your laptop X58L has Penryn support. 0676 without the '1' is the same thing. Your bios supports cpu id 0676, 0674, 067A.

[DylRicho]

Hi,

Your laptop X58L has Penryn support. 0676 without the '1' is the same thing. Your bios supports cpu id 0676, 0674, 067A.

Hi Raalph.

Thanks for your reply. You've made everything very easy to understand.

Is there anywhere online that provides a list of processors based on their respective CPUID so that I can see what is compatible for the three aforementioned IDs?

In recent news, another guy with the same laptop contacted me as he had purchased a Core 2 Duo T9300. To his surprise, the processor is working very well, with much better processing and thermal performance than his previous CPU.

That's good news for me, but I'd still really like any form of website that lists processors alongside their CPUIDs. Do you have any ideas?

Cheers!
Dylan.

[Raalph]

Hi,

No problem I will show you how to check them. For example we want to find out if t9300 will work in your laptop. You are looking for socket P processors.

Go on this website:

http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SLAYY.html

This link gives detailed information on t9300 S-spec SLAYY.

You will find there : CPUID 010676h

in the center you have numbers 0676 and thats what you are looking for

Lets check if T6600 also will work. I found it here:

http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SLGF5.html

CPUID 01067Ah so its 067A.

And thats how it works

One more thing. Your laptop also supports some older Merom cpus like 06FB, 0661, 06FD, 06FA, 06F9, 06F5.

As you can see you have plenty options to choose.

Hope this helps.

[DylRicho]

Hi,

No problem I will show you how to check them. For example we want to find out if t9300 will work in your laptop. You are looking for socket P processors.

Go on this website:

http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SLAYY.html

This link gives detailed information on t9300 S-spec SLAYY.

You will find there : CPUID 010676h

in the center you have numbers 0676 and thats what you are looking for

Lets check if T6600 also will work. I found it here:

http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SLGF5.html

CPUID 01067Ah so its 067A.

And thats how it works

Hope this helps.

Oh, sweet. Thank you so much! I've been trying to find out information about my BIOS for at least a year now, and the BIOS codes have repeatedly given me a headache. No one else actually explained them to me.

So, I'm not looking for a complete match? Only part of it has to match?

I pulled a list of CPUIDs from my BIOS using MMTool, and compared it against a gaming laptop by ASUS. They seem to support the same IDs, at least most of them, which is quite a shock as this computer was only £220, 4 years ago. Obviously, I have serious doubts as to whether Extremes and quad-cores would work as I don't think the themal design of this laptop was made for 45 watts (although I could be wrong).

The power supply is a 65-watt brick, so I don't think a Core 2 Extreme X9000 would fit within the limit, bearing in mind the other components as well. So far, I'm running on a Core 2 Duo T5900, which is a 35-watt Merom, also listed by ASUS as its apparent highest processor support, so I know I can use 35-watt processors without problems (hence why I'm looking at both the T9300 and T9500).

So, from that list that I pulled, am I simply looking for ID strings containing those CPUIDs? I did notice that some of the IDs in that table, bring up odd results. For example, 0661 shows Intel Atoms and desktop Celerons.

Is there anything about the microcode IDs or update revisions that I should also consider or search for?

Again, much appreciation for your help!
Dylan.

[Raalph]

Hi,

Well sorry but I am no super expert in laptop cpus. Maybe someone else in this forum has bigger knowledge in this subject. Obviously desktop celerons are for desktop so focus on mobile cpus if you want to use them in your laptop

When I wanted to upgrade my cpu first thing i checked was socket type, then max FSB supported by my chipset, after that I checked what power supply do I have and at the end CPU Ids from my bios. So as you can see yes there are more things to look at.

I also have t5900 in my laptop and I know that you can do some software undervolting to this CPU and that will give you less heat and lower power consumption. Mine t5900 is working just fine with max voltage set to 1,1875V. To do it I use program called "Rightmark cpu clock utility".

Your bios supports more cpus compared to G70SG so I would say yes its better. You have support for 067A which is missing in G70SG.

So no worries, core 2 duo mobile cpus with FSB 800mhz, socket p,max TDP 35W, should work, maybe you will need to change your power supply to 90W. Mine that I use is 90W.

Good luck

[DylRicho]

Hi,

Well sorry but I am no super expert in laptop cpus. Maybe someone else in this forum has bigger knowledge in this subject. Obviously desktop celerons are for desktop so focus on mobile cpus if you want to use them in your laptop

When I wanted to upgrade my cpu first thing i checked was socket type, then max FSB supported by my chipset, after that I checked what power supply do I have and at the end CPU Ids from my bios. So as you can see yes there are more things to look at.

I also have t5900 in my laptop and I know that you can do some software undervolting to this CPU and that will give you less heat and lower power consumption. Mine t5900 is working just fine with max voltage set to 1,1875V. To do it I use program called "Rightmark cpu clock utility".

Your bios supports more cpus compared to G70SG so I would say yes its better. You have support for 067A which is missing in G70SG.

So no worries, core 2 duo mobile cpus with FSB 800mhz, socket p,max TDP 35W, should work, maybe you will need to change your power supply to 90W. Mine that I use is 90W.

Good luck

Thank you!

I think I've made my decision. The T9500 is the best Core 2 Duo for my platform, but the T9300 offers much better performance for the money (can be picked up for as little as £35), as compared to the T9500 (I've seen some at £80), so what I think I'll do is only go for the T9500 if the pricing is around £35. If there aren't any, I'll just go with the T9300.

With that said, do you think that my chipset is a GL960 (as advertised by ASUS and programs like CPU-Z and Aida64) or a GM965 (considering what I have below):

• Core 2 Duo CPUs are compatible (GL960 doesn't support them)
  
• Hyper-Threading is reported to be working (GL960 doesn't support this, since C2Ds aren't supported)
  
• 667/800 MHz FSB speeds supported (GL960 only supports 533 MHz)
  
• Penryn support (GL960 only supports Meroms)
  
• 3 GB DDR2-800 RAM in my machine; 4 GB doesn't work - BSoDs (GL960 only supports 2 GB DDR2-533; GM965 supports 4 GB DDR2-800, but downclocks it to 667 MHz)
  

I also noticed from the table that the CPUID 067A was added on April 9, 2008. I did try a 067A processor a few months ago (the Celeron 925), which worked and was released in 2009, after that BIOS update. This would make me believe that any Penryn is supported? Is this assumption probable at all?

[Raalph]

In that case there are two options: your laptop is magic or Intel on their website is lying . I think that second option is the right one. That means that your GL960 is a crippled version of 965 with just one difference and that is 2/3GB of max supported amount of ram. If we dont know why do they lie it means it has to do something with money

If celeron 925 was released in 2009 that doesn't mean it was invented/made at the same time.


look at the picture, 06 means that the core or technology to make that kind of cpu was made/inwented in 2006. So why did they release it in 2009? Answer would be the same.... money. Why would they put it in the market in 2006/2007 if they had older 65 nm cpus to sell in the first place That's my guess.