M2N32-SLI Deluxe AM3 Support Request

[Keyzer]

The 4X issue is an internal phase design flaw that I am still researching the proper solution for in the BIOS and is not an easy solution. However to those who have the X6 chip and would like to test the next BETA RELEASE then you may do so below at your own risk

http://bios-mods.com/BIOS/CPU/M2N32-SLI%20Deluxe (Beta 2 of X6 Support, tools included in FTP)

Thanks,
TheWiz

Is this one suppossed to fix the 128 MB memory problem?
Is it still ok to flash it using ASUS flashin tool, like I did with last one?

Anyway, I have to replace my CMOS battery since it has been giving me some trouble lately. I don't want it messing with the BIOS update.

[TheWiz]

Yes this will hopefully address the memory problem. Yet this just morning the team made a huge discovery. We found a version header relationship between the AGESA and MEMINIT, which is a huge step forward for the ASUS AM3 project and other CPU upgrades for AMD.

[MRocha]

Yes this will hopefully address the memory problem. Yet this just morning the team made a huge discovery. We found a version header relationship between the AGESA and MEMINIT, which is a huge step forward for the ASUS AM3 project and other CPU upgrades for AMD.

Hi TheWiz, first of all, I think you can put x6 to work in M2N32SLI, I'm so excited to see that I'm almost running BIOS updating without even having bought the processor, but I have some questions:
1) I dont have the x6, the bios will still work on my Athlon 64 3200? If so if I buy and put x6 will recognize it immediately?
2) I was comparing the code of your original bios with the Asus 5002, found a few routines positioned at different addresses, there is a problem with that is normal or not makes no difference?
3) It has space to include a SLIC 2.1? my current is a MOD and have this features.
4) The CrashFree code is positioned at what address? he saved me twice and I do not want any surprises when upgrade, why i dont have another bios.
5) Always updated my bios and have always used the ASUS EZ Flash 2 in BIOS itself to make these updates can I use it or have to use the HP utility DOS USB Drive that you released?
6) The MOBO will be able meet the demand of consumption x6? many users say they do not. Is preferable to give up and put a x4 same?
7) Because the AGESA version of the address-000cc860 000cc870 shows the number v.3.3.2.7? Which version AGESA after all this?

[Tigerfox]

6) The MOBO will be able meet the demand of consumption x6? many users say they do not. Is preferable to give up and put a x4 same?

If you look around, you will only find very few AM2-mobos supporting either a X6 Phenom or even a X4 with 125W TDP (mostly older Agena or the PII X4 920/949/945, never anything above 3GHz). I have yet to see a AM2-Board officially supporting a X6 125W.
Since the 95W X6 are neowhere to be seen for purchase, I think you should give up on them at this point.

I would either go for a X4 945 95W C3 or a 955BE 125W C3 with undervolting. There should be a X4 955 95W nonBE and even a X4 960 95W was seen in a roadmap, but both should already be purchaseable, the former at least as long as the 95W X6.

The reason for AM2-boards only supporting 95W Phenoms is the missing of the dual-powerplane AM2+ and AM3 use, thus making the mem-contoller in the CPU use the same voltage as the cores and drawing more power than AM2-boards can take.

[MRocha]

If you look around, you will only find very few AM2-mobos supporting either a X6 Phenom or even a X4 with 125W TDP (mostly older Agena or the PII X4 920/949/945, never anything above 3GHz). I have yet to see a AM2-Board officially supporting a X6 125W.
Since the 95W X6 are neowhere to be seen for purchase, I think you should give up on them at this point.

I would either go for a X4 945 95W C3 or a 955BE 125W C3 with undervolting. There should be a X4 955 95W nonBE and even a X4 960 95W was seen in a roadmap, but both should already be purchaseable, the former at least as long as the 95W X6.

945, 955, 965 and 970 with a 125w runs good and do not need undervolting, just update the bios to 5002.

[TheWiz]

Hi MRocha,

Thanks for all of your input on all of this you seem very knowledgable on the modification proccess. The addresses may seem different because of a replacement MEMINIT from the ASUS M2N-SLI-DELUX. If you could point out in IDA where you see the routine changes I could confirm some things with you. Replacing MEMINIT will surely change the routines, but I recently found the header in the MEMINIT contains the AGESA version it expects, so even though it says 3.3.2.7, the actual updated AGESA is the 3.7.0.0. The AGESA and MEMINIT in the new beta2 are from the M2N-SLI-DELUXE mod I did to add 6 core support. Check the BIOS on the AM3 porject page for details.

SLIC 2.1 is easily insertable, jsut let me know your preferred flavor.
You should be able to use the EZFLASH without a problem. I am still rather nervous with having someone without a spare chip test these BIOSes though as I do not have this board myself and cannot confirm. The members from the M2N-SLI-DELUXE had spare chips and never had one bad experiences, but we are using a MEMINIT from a 570 in a 590 environment, which could have reprucussions especially without knowing the compatability level with clearing the bootblock etc. during flash with AWDFLASH as opposed to the EZFLASH. I do recommend seeing if anyone with a spare chip can test this before you do so, but I ppreciate your enthusiasm. Let me know if you are interested in joining the CPU research team as well.

Thanks,
TheWiz

[MRocha]

Hi TheWiz,
thanks, I am honored by the invitation, but do not know where I can help, but I am programmer Delphi and ASP, I know some assembly and have no experience with this programming language. Another question is the MEMINIT routine that controls the startup and recognition memory?

[TheWiz]

Hi MRocha,

Having guys who even know some assembly would be a great help. I can PM you details for how you could contribute to our developer forum with small assembler articles to make the mods somewhat literate for basic uses of assembly. Let me know if you are interested

The MEMINIT routine does involve memory, but the bootblock and POST routine is the actual RAM initiation phase. the MEMINIT module is only in bioses with an AGEA revision greater than v3, as the AGESA v3 introduced this module as part of the newer routine for AMD proccessor detection and initialization.

TheWiz

[MRocha]

Hi MRocha,

Having guys who even know some assembly would be a great help. I can PM you details for how you could contribute to our developer forum with small assembler articles to make the mods somewhat literate for basic uses of assembly. Let me know if you are interested

The MEMINIT routine does involve memory, but the bootblock and POST routine is the actual RAM initiation phase. the MEMINIT module is only in bioses with an AGEA revision greater than v3, as the AGESA v3 introduced this module as part of the newer routine for AMD proccessor detection and initialization.

TheWiz

Hi TheWiz,

yes I am interested in learning new things and able to contribute to the forum.

[TheWiz]

Any testing results on the last post?

TheWiz